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Word of Faith Movement
For those of you that think I've recently lost my mind, I can assure you it wasn't recent.  Lol.  Understand that I do not get up there and preach, I show others who do, and I am careful to research carefully everything I present.  The Word of Faith movement is broad sweeping, though not every church adheres to everything that movement teaches.  There are fine threads of this movement that are creeping into all of our churches and unless you study the truth of the word itself and it alone, you are able to be deceived.  So for the sake of discussion, food for thought, read the following article by Gary Gilley which does a good job of summarizing and pointing out the errors of that movement.

The Word-Faith Movement*

By Gary E. Gilley

The fastest growing segment of professing Christianity today is the Word-Faith Movement, also known as the Positive Confession or simply "Faith" movement. Its growth is at least partially due to the massive amounts of money the leaders are able to extract from the faithful. This influx of cash allows for huge buildings and extensive ministries, and more importantly, wide exposure on television, which translates into numerical growth. Not only do many Word-Faith preachers broadcast their services and campaigns, but Word-Faith adherents, Paul and Jan Crouch, own the largest Christian-based television network in the world. The Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), founded by the Crouches, with an estimated net worth of approximately $600 million dollars, is capable of televising the Faith message (as well as many other errant messages) all over the world.

Well-known personalities within the movement include Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Tilton (who is staging a come-back), Paul Yonggi Cho, Benny Hinn, Marilyn Hickey, Frederick K.C. Price, John Avanzini, Charles Capps, Jerry Savelle, Morris Cerullo and of course, Paul and Jan Crouch. 

Beliefs 

Faith Is a Force

As is implied by the title "Word-Faith," the supporters of this movement believe that faith works like a mighty power or force. Through faith, we can obtain anything we want -- health, wealth, success, whatever. However, this force is only released through the spoken word. As we speak the words of faith, power is discharged to accomplish our desires. Hagin's theme, as found in his booklet How to Write Your Own Ticket with God, can be summarized as follows (Christianity in Crisis, pp. 74-75):

In the opening chapter, titled "Jesus Appears to Me," Hagin claims that while he "was in the Spirit" -- just like the apostle John on the Isle of Patmos -- a white cloud enveloped him and he began to speak in tongues. "Then the Lord Jesus Himself appeared to me," says Hagin. "He stood within three feet of me." After what sounded like a casual conversation about such things as finances, ministry, and even current affairs, Jesus told Hagin to get a pencil and a piece of paper. He then instructed him to "Write down: 1,2,3,4." Jesus then allegedly told Hagin "if anybody, anywhere, will take these four steps or put these four principles into operation, he will always receive whatever he wants from Me or from God the Father." That includes whatever you want financially. The formula is simply: "Say it, Do it, Receive it, and Tell it."

1. Step number one is "Say it." "Positive or negative, it is up to the individual. According to what the individual says, that shall he receive."
2. Step number two is "Do it." "Your action defeats you or puts you over. According to your action, you receive or you are kept from receiving."

3. Step number three is "Receive it." We are to plug into the "powerhouse of heaven." "Faith is the plug, praise God! Just plug in."

4. Step number four is "Tell it so others may believe." This final step might be considered the Faith movement's outreach program.

Kenneth Copeland states the faith formula this way: "All it takes is 1) Seeing or visualizing whatever you need, whether physical or financial; 2) Staking your claim on Scripture; and 3) Speaking it into existence" (Christianity in Crisis, p. 80).

Paul Yonggi Cho, borrowing from the occult, has developed what he calls the "Law of Incubation." Here is how it works: "First make a clear-cut goal, then draw a mental picture, vivid and graphic, to visualize success. Then incubate it into reality, and finally speak it into existence through the creative power of the spoken word" (Christianity in Crisis, pp. 83-84).

If a positive confession of faith releases power, then according to Word-Faith, a negative confession can actually backfire. Capps says the tongue "can kill you, or it can release the life of God within you." This is so because, "Faith is a seed … you plant it by speaking it." There is power in "the evil fourth dimension" says Cho. Hagin informs us that if you confess sickness you get sickness, if you confess health you get health, whatever you say you get. "This spoken word … releases power -- power for good or power for evil," is the commonly held view of the movement. It is easy to see why the title "Positive Confession" is often applied to this group.

As one might guess, the teachings of the Faith movement are very attractive to some. If we can produce whatever our hearts desire by simply demanding what we want by faith, if we can manipulate the universe and perhaps even God, then we have our own personal genie just waiting to fulfill our wishes. Frederick K.C. Price wastes no words when he writes:

"Now this is a shocker! But God has to be given permission to work in this earth realm on behalf of man. … Yes! You are in control! So if man has control, who no longer has it? God. ... When God gave Adam dominion, that meant God no longer had dominion. So, God cannot do anything on this earth unless we let Him or give Him permission through prayer" (Prayer: Do You Know What Prayer Is. ... and How to Pray? The Word Study Bible, p. 1178).  

This is certainly a theology that would appeal to the masses, and thus accounts for the Faith movement's popularity.

The Deification of Man 

Faith teachers like to teach, based upon serious mishandling of passages such as John 10:31-39 and II Peter 1:4, that Christians are "little gods." Copeland says, "Now Peter said by exceeding great and precious promises you become partakers of the divine nature. All right, are we gods? We are a class of gods!" (Christianity in Crisis, p. 116). Benny Hinn declares, "God came from heaven, became a man, made man into little gods, went back to heaven as a man" (Christianity in Crisis, p. 382 n. 43). Earl Paulk wrote, "Until we comprehend that we are little gods and we begin to act like little gods, we cannot manifest the kingdom of God" (Satan Unmasked, p. 97). 

The Humanization of God 

While man is glorified, God is humiliated in the Faith system. Copeland claims that God is a being who stands about 6'2"-6'3", weighing somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred pounds, and has a hand span of 9" across (Christianity in Crisis, p. 121). Copeland also declares "Adam was the copy, looked just like (God). If you stood Adam beside God, they looked just exactly alike. If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and sound exactly alike" (Christianity in Crisis, p. 137). 

Many of the Word-Faith teachers also embrace a heresy known as Tritheism, which in essence teaches that there are really three separate Gods. Hinn, under supposed inspiration, explains: 

"Man, I feel revelation knowledge already coming on me here. Holy Spirit, take over in the name of Jesus. ... God the Father, ladies and gentlemen, is a person; and He is a triune being by Himself separate from the Son and the Holy Ghost. Say, what did you say? Hear it, hear it, hear it. See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is a person, God the Holy Ghost is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by Himself. If I can shock you -- and maybe I should -- there's nine of them. Huh, what did you say? Let me explain: God the Father, ladies and gentlemen, is a person with his own personal spirit, with his own personal soul, and his own personal spirit-body. You say, Huh, I never heard that. Well you think you're in this church to hear things you've heard for the last 50 years? You can't argue with the Word, can you? It's all in the Word (Christianity in Crisis, p. 123-124).

Hinn, under fire, later retracted his remarks, only to reaffirm them two years later.

Jesus supposedly told Copeland, "They crucified me for claiming that I was God. But I didn't claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and that he was in me" (Christianity in Crisis, p. 137-138). Many of the Faith heresies concerning God can be traced to the notes found in Dake's Annotated Reference Bible. 

The Distortion of the Cross 

Four atonement-related errors on the part of the Faith teachers can be documented: 

1) Christ was re-created on the cross from divine to demonic. To put it in Faith vernacular, Jesus took on the very nature of Satan himself.
2) Your redemption was not secured on the cross, but in hell. In fact, many Faith teachers claim that Christ's torture by all the demons of hell was a "ransom" God paid to Satan so that He could get back into a universe from which He had been banished. 
3) Jesus was reborn (or born again) in the very pit of hell.
4) Christ was reincarnated through His rebirth in hell and that those who (like Christ) are born again can become "incarnated" as well. 

Thus, Faith teachers take Christ, the spotless Lamb, and pervert Him into an unholy sacrifice on the cross (Christianity In Crisis, p.153). 

Practices 

While many, even within the Word-Faith churches, are unaware of some of the doctrinal heresies of the movement, none can plead ignorant of the strange and bizarre practices and emphasis of its leaders. The following things are standard occurrences in virtually every one of their television broadcasts, evangelistic campaigns, and church services. 

A Prosperity Gospel 

Nothing will create more euphoria in the average person than the promise to make them wealthy, and this the Word-Faith leadership knows very well. The Word-Faith teacher's lifestyle is clearly identified by opulence, luxury, riches, and the assurance that all of this can be his followers as well -- if only they apply certain principles. 

Robert Tilton is normative. On a Trinity Broadcasting Network program in 1990 he said: 

"Being poor is a sin, when God promises prosperity. New house? New car? That's chicken feed. That's nothing compared to what God wants to do for you" (Charismatic Chaos, p. 285).  

Fred Price on a similar broadcast explains how it works:  

"If you've got one dollar faith and you ask for a ten-thousand dollar item, it ain't going to work. It won't work. Jesus said, 'According to your [faith],' not according to God's will for you, in His own good time, if it's according to His will, if He can work it into his busy schedule. He said, 'According to your faith, be it unto you'" (Charismatic Chaos, p. 286). 

Of course, the road to prosperity somehow always leads to the offering plate of the Word-Faith Movement. Gloria Copeland (Kenneth's wife) pulls no punches in her book God's Will Is Prosperity: 

"Give $10 and receive $1000; Give $1000 and receive $100,000 … give one house and receive one hundred houses or a house worth one hundred times as much. Give one airplane and receive one hundred times the value of the airplane. … In short, Mark 10:30 is a very good deal" (p. 54).

A Health Gospel 

The "name-it-and-claim-it" pundits are not content with mere wealth; they want to feel well enough to enjoy their prosperity. So do most of their listeners. So while you are giving away wealth, why not dispense health as well? 

The Word-Faith teachers, as is true of many other charismatics, believe that Christ provided for physical healing at the cross. As a result, not only are Christians saved from sin, they are promised a life of health. Kenneth Copeland writes in Healed … to Be or Not to Be: 

"The first step to spiritual maturity is to realize your position before God. You are a child of God and a joint-heir with Jesus. Consequently, you are entitled to all the rights and privileges in the kingdom of God, and one of their rights is health and healing" (p. 25).

But, if healing is part of the atonement, why do Christians get sick? Lack of faith, as Benny Hinn explains:  

"The Bible declares that the work was done 2,000 years ago. God is not going to heal you now -- he healed you 2,000 years ago. All you have to do today is receive your healing by faith" (Rise and Be Healed, p. 44). 

Of course reality, in the form of sickness, has to be faced even by the Word-Faith leaders. Fred Price may proclaim "we don't allow sickness in our home," but his wife still has cancer. Kenneth Hagin brags that he has not had a headache, the flu, or even "one sick day" in nearly 60 years, but he has had four cardiovascular crises. Paul Crouch may have healed Oral Roberts of chest pains on a TBN Broadcast, but it didn't stop Oral from having a heart attack a few hours later (Christianity in Crisis, pp. 237-238). How are these things explained away? Predictably, by blaming them on the devil. Sickness in the Word-Faith camp is usually seen as satanic attacks that must be repelled by words of faith (i.e., "positive confession"). 

Experiences 

The faith leaders make some amazing claims. Hagin, for example, has visited (so he says) both heaven and hell as well as had out-of-body experiences (Christianity in Crisis, p. 334). He has had many visits from Jesus and angels. He boasts of the ability to heal, cast our demons, and levitate people (p. 336). Hinn opens his best selling book with these words: 

"It was three days before Christmas 1973. The sun was still rising on that cold, misty Toronto morning. Suddenly He was there. The Holy Spirit entered my room. He was as real to me that morning as the book you are holding in your hand is to you. For the next eight hours I had an incredible experience with the Holy Spirit. It changed the course of my life (Rise and Be Healed, p. 1). 

Hinn speaks of frequent personal visits from the Lord, the first being at age eleven: 

"I saw Jesus walk into my bedroom. He was wearing a robe that was whiter than white and a deep red mantle was draped over the robe. I saw his hair. I looked into His eyes. I saw the nailprints in His hands. I saw everything. ... When it happened, I was asleep, but suddenly my little body was caught up in an incredible sensation that can only be described as 'electric.' It felt as if someone had plugged me into a wired socket. There was a numbness that felt like needles -- a million of them -- rushing through my body. And then the Lord stood before me while I was in a deep, deep sleep. He looked straight at me with the most beautiful eyes. He smiled, and His arms were open wide. I could feel His presence. It was marvelous and I'll never forget it" (Rise and Be Healed, p. 22). 

When Hinn describes his conversion, he does not mention the cross, repentance, or faith; rather, it is all couched in terms of experience: 

"What I really felt, though, was that this surge of power was cleansing me -- instantly, from the inside out. I felt absolutely clean, immaculate, and pure. Suddenly I saw Jesus with my own eyes. It happened in a moment of time. There he was. Jesus" (Rise and Be Healed, p. 31). 

Hinn claims power of a supernatural nature often emanates from his body: 

"Once, my mother was cleaning the hallway while I was in my room talking with the Holy Spirit. When I came out, she was thrown right back. Something had knocked her against the wall. I said, 'What's wrong with you, Mama?' She answered, 'I don't know?' Well, the presence of the Lord almost knocked her down" (Rise and Be Healed, p. 42). 

Both the appeal of the book and its dangers are evident in this quote: 

"Are you ready to meet the Holy Spirit intimately and personally? Do you want to hear His voice? Are you prepared to know him as a person? That's exactly what happened to me, and it drastically transformed my life. It was an intensely personal experience, and it was based on God's Word. You may ask, 'Was it the result of a systematic Bible study?' No, it happened when I invited the Holy Spirit to be my personal friend. To be my constant guide. To take me by the hand and lead me 'into all truth.' What He will uncover and reveal to you in Scripture will make your study of the Bible come alive" (Rise and Be Healed, p. 48). 

Both the Word-Faith leaders and their followers make the same mistake of basing their lives on experiences and feelings rather than upon the inspired Word of God. 

Luminaries within the Movement

Kenneth Hagin is considered the father of Word-Faith. He has a syndicated radio show carried by about 250 radio stations; a Bible School (Rhema Bible Training Center) with 12,000 graduates from 1974-1992; a magazine with 400,000 subscribers; and has sold millions of books and other publications. 

Kenneth Copeland is the heir-apparent to the Faith throne (although Benny Hinn has moved in to challenge). Copeland's empire spans the globe with similar ministries as Hagin. 

Benny Hinn was pastor of Orlando Christian Center in Orlando, Florida. (He recently moved his ministry to Dallas.) Hinn reaches the world through evangelistic campaigns, television, and literature. His book Good Morning Holy Spirit was the best selling Christian book in 1991, selling a quarter of a million copies in only three months. He is perhaps best known as a "Faith-Healer" in the traditions of Kathryn Kuhlman (his idol) and Oral Roberts. His "ability" to "slay in the Spirit" large groups of people at once (by blowing on them or waving his arm their direction) has brought him considerable notoriety. 

Frederick K.C. Price, the most prominent of black Word-Faith preachers, pastors the 16,000-member Crenshaw Christian Center, and has his own television show. 

John Avanzini, best-known fundraiser among the Word-Faith leaders. He has said, "A greater than a lottery has come. His name is Jesus!" 

Robert Tilton perfected the Christian infomercial through his "Success-N-Life" television program. 

Marilyn Hickey is (except for Gloria Copeland and perhaps Jan Crouch) the best-known woman in the movement. She teaches people to speak to their wallets and checkbooks in order that their wealth may increase. 

David Yonggi Cho is the pastor of the 700,000 Full Gospel Yoido Church in South Korea. Cho, who often speaks at Robert Schuller Conferences on church growth (along with Bill Hybels), is perhaps the closest link to the occult. He teaches a concept called the "Fourth Dimension." The first three dimensions are physical and are controlled by the fourth, which is the spiritual. Cho teaches that Christians can get anything they want by calling upon the spirit world in the Fourth Dimension and visualizing what they want. When a person (Christian or unsaved) follows the proper formula of positive thinking, speaking and visualizing, they "incubate" and eventually give birth to their desires. These techniques are the same used in his occult-infested country. Cho is aware of this fact, but believes what works for "them" will work for "us" -- so use it.   


* This report has been excerpted and or adapted from an article ("The Word of Faith Movement") in the April 1999, Think on These Things, Southern View Chapel, Springfield, IL, Gary Gilley, Pastor.


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Jan 16, 2009
Science vs God
The atheist Professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely.'
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha, the Bible!' He considers for a moment.
'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can
cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good!'
'I wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'

The student remains silent.
'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a
glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'
'Err...yes,' the student says.
'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student falters. 'From God'
'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this
world?'
'Yes, sir.'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'
'Yes'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything,
then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

Again, the student has no answer...
'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'
The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?'
There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues on to a second student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'

The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'
The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to
identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir. I've never seen Him.'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not.'
'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ , or God for that matter?'

'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'

'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'

'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with
God. There is no evidence, only faith.'

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own.


'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'

'Yes.'

'And is there such a thing as cold?'

'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet.

The student begins to explain. 'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.'

'Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.

Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'

'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'


'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word.'

'In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So are you making a point, young man?'

'Yes, professor! My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'

'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains... 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.'

'It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.'

'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?'


'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.'

'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'


The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.


'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.'

The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.

'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.'

'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lecture, sir?'

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.'

'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'

Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God.

God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart.

It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'

The professor sat down.

The student was Albert Einstein!
 
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Jan 8, 2009
Well my family, sometimes Kaneva has other things in mind.  For those that would like to see this last presentation, here are the links.
Otherwise, I will try to show it again on a more Kaneva friendly nite when none of us lag.
 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvRXrgIyeCQ&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=57
 Eternity part 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8-mGSsGW6w&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=58
 Eternity part 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMRVr2KyKCQ&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=59
 eternity part 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSbnoBNM6Pc&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=60
 eternity part 4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpWD5pbArM&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=61
 eternity part 5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcS4DDfGf4I&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=62
 eternity part 6


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt0MbQ8ZeCs&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=64
 eternity part 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZj639EIBwg&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=65
 eternity part 8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivH-AXhSzTA&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=66
 eternity part 9


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffIOYmRelTY&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=67
 eternity part 10 conclusion


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9THUrIOrVDE&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=69
 Love her like Jesus-Casting Crowns


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgeMHHbFslk&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=72
 Mountain of God-Third Day


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqw2ssYXC8&feature=PlayList&p=D0C8396CD016C40F&index=79
 I still believe-Jeremy Camp

 
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Rhaps
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Jan 5, 2009
Last weeks Endtimes movie
For those of you that wanted a copy of the list of videos from last weeks endtimes movie here it is.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=barlR9YUB8U&feature=related
 Endtimes-part 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmJZolBJhtU&feature=related
 endtimes part 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2dExJ9hF0&feature=related
 endtimes part 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGarfzkXxOw&feature=related
 entimes part 4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-PyXXvzNJA&feature=related
 endtimes part 5


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDGRHQFxlhU&feature=related
 endtimes part 6

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flAFE1cLN6g&feature=related
 endtimes part 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRpb-1vvexM&feature=related
 when Jesus returns


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhxgj5qE3oY&feature=related
 second coming of Jesus-conclusion

 
Enjoy!
RhapsodyBlue
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Dec 26, 2008
The 12 days of Christmas
From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as a catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning,  plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality that the children could remember.


  1. The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ
  2. Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments
  3. Three French hens stood for faith, hope and love
  4. The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
  5. The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five books of the Old Testament
  6. The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation
  7. Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit
    1. Prophesy
    2. Serving
    3. Teaching
    4. Exhortation
    5. Contribution
    6. Leadership
    7. Mercy
  8. The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes
  9. Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit
    1. Love
    2. Joy
    3. Peace
    4. Patience
    5. Kindness
    6. Goodness
    7. Faithfulness
    8. Gentleness
    9. Self Control
  10. The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments
  11. The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples
  12. The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed
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Dec 5, 2008
Welcome new mods
Welcome new moderators!  On board now are lol_mom, Kaliadder, Gracie, Mad_Mac.  Anyone that wants that title removed see me.  1spiritfilled, would love to also have you on board but you gotta sign the dotted line, lol.  Join the community.  Thanks so much for your help gracie.  Don't know why my page is working differently than Mac's but finally figured out how to do this so that the next time I freeze up any of you can keep peace in the world. lol
 
RhapsodyBlue
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Dec 1, 2008
The 12 Opossums
The 12 Opossums
 
The following is from a lady in Oregon.  It is priceless!  The Bible explained by kids - truth has been redefined!
 
One of our favorite jobs has been leading junior church.  We try to do more than babysit our church's beloved little ankle-biters during their time in our special junior church facility.  We aim to give them a solid background in biblical history.  At the end of each year, we give them pencils and paper and ask them to chronicle what they have learned.  This assignment never fails to elicit some intriguing responses.  In case you're a little foggy on your biblical history, let our junior church students help you with this complete overview of the Bible, it has been compiled from all their essays:
 
In the beginning, which occurred near the start, there was nothing but God, darkness, and some gas.  The Bible says, 'The Lord thy God is one,' but I think He must be a lot older than that.  Anyway, God said, 'Give me a light!' and someone did.  Then God made the world.  He split the Adam and made Eve.
 
Adam and Eve were naked, but they weren't embarrassed because mirrors hadn't been invented yet.  Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating one bad apple, so they were driven from the Garden of Eden.  Not sure what they were driven in though, because they didn't have cars.
 
Adam and Eve had a son, Cain, who hated his brother as long as he was Abel.  Pretty soon all of the early people died off, except for Methuselah, who lived to be like a million or something.  One of the next important people was Noah, who was a good guy, but one of his kids was kind of a ham Noah built a large boat and put his family and some animals on it.  He asked some other people to join him, but they said they would have to take a rain check. 
 
After Noah came Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  Jacob was more famous than his brother, Esau, because Esau sold Jacob his birthmark in exchange for some pot roast.  Jacob had a son named Joseph who wore a really loud sports coat. 
 
Another important Bible guy is Moses, whose real name was Charlton Heston.  Moses led the Israel Lights out of Egypt and away from the evil Pharaoh after God sent ten plagues on Pharaoh's people.  These plagues included frogs, mice, lice, bowels, and no cable.  God fed the Israel Lights every day with manicotti.  Then He gave them His top ten commandments.  These include, don't lie, cheat, smoke, dance, or covet your neighbor's bottom (the Bible uses a bad word for bottom that I'm not supposed to say), but my Dad uses it sometimes when he talks about Congress.  Oh yeah, I just thought of one more:  Humor thy father and thy Mother. 
 
One of Moses' best helpers was Joshua, who was the first Bible guy to use spies.  Joshua fought the battle of Geritol and the fence fell over on the town. 
 
After Joshua came David.  He got to be king by killing a giant with a slingshot.  He had a son named Solomon who had about 300 wives and
500 porcupines.  My teacher says he was wise, but that doesn't sound very wise to me. 
 
After Solomon there were a bunch of major league prophets.  One of these was Jonah, who was swallowed by a big whale and then barfed up on the shore.  There were also some minor league prophets, but I guess we don't have to worry about them. 
 
After the Old Testament came the New Testament.  Jesus is the star of the New Testament.  He was born in Bethlehem in a barn.  I wish I had been born in a barn too, because my Mom is always saying to me, 'Close the door!  Were you born in a barn?' It would be nice to say, 'Yes, I was.' During His life, Jesus had many arguments with sinners like the Pharisees.  Jesus also had twelve oppossums.  The worst one was Judas Asparagus.  Judas was so evil that they named a terrible vegetable after him! 
 
Jesus was a great man, He healed many leopards and even preached to some Germans on the Mount.  But all those guys put Jesus on trial before Pontius the Pilot.  Pilot didn't stick up for Jesus, he just washed his hands instead. 
 
Anyways, Jesus died for our sins, then came back to life again.  He went to Heaven, but will be back at the end of the Aluminum.  His return is foretold in the book of Revolution. 
 
There!  Now you understand it.
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Nov 8, 2008
Underground Church Reflections posted by lol_mom
Dear CBF Family,

                 It is my joy to reflect upon the evening we spent together at the Underground Church! Rather than our typical meetings at hangout locations, this time we met in a hidden area, built in the backyard of RhapsodyBlue's home. The Lord has entrusted her with a heartfelt burden for the persecuted Church. Constructing this secret place was her way to honor our often forgotten brethren who suffer in silence around the world. She also built it to teach and prepare us for the possibility of persecutions that may come in our own lives. Our freedoms are not guaranteed, nor is a life of comfort and ease. But, we read in the book 1 Peter vs 12-13:  "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:  But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy."

                We arrived at the beautiful city loft residence of RhapsodyBlue. Our luxurious surroundings gave no indication that we would discover anything but a modern home. The back of the two-story house had several patio decks from which to view the built-in swimming pool, her Art Studio, and clothing store. To our surprise, we discovered the back deck led into a giant dance room that had a nightclub atmosphere! It was decorated with many neon lights and signs representing Americana fun. The Art Studio had multiple canvassed masterpieces on display, all created by RhapsodyBlue, a graphic artist in real life! She had flora, fauna, portraits, scenes, and more, both of abstract and realistic varieties. Visitors were amazed at her artistic talent and versatility. But, it was time for our meeting, so we made our way through the alleys, past the garden, down to the hidden area far below.

                 We finally arrived in a stone room with a giant boiler, where exposed pipes covered the entire back wall. It made for an unlikely sanctuary, but after all, that is what being an "Underground Church" is all about. There were photos of persecuted brothers in Nigeria at the entrance. Evidence of their suffering cut us to the heart and inspired us to pray on their behalf. We made our way to the pews and began to dance and sing in worship to the Lord. Next, RhapsodyBlue invited us to be seated for the film "Hell's Best Kept Secret" hosted by Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort. Taken from "The Way of the Master Basic Training Course," we learned of the tragic turn that modern evangelism has taken. Rather than offend people with the idea of judgment for their sins, many preachers now offer Christ simply as a feel-good addition to their lives. Their sin is not realized, much less regretted, so they do not repent or become transformed in their hearts.  It is said that "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions." In my opinion, no scenario proves it better than this one. After viewing this presentation, we determined in our hearts to present the true Gospel to all whom we meet, so that they might embrace the grace of God freely given through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

                 After the film, we lingered to pray and to worship. One by one, members and visitors asked for prayers to be offered from the others present in the room. We heard testimonies of CBF members who, after years of rebellion, had seen salvation come to their whole families. Strengthened and inspired by these stories, we were able to cast our cares on the Lord and trust Him fully. God inhabited our praises and gave us a spirit of unity and love. May God complete the work He has begun in every member of the Christian Believers Fellowship!

All My Love,

lol_mom
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